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Re: Firm and Fast; do you agree? 7 years 2 months ago #57911

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agreed with the posts here.

I have played Superstition Mountain in AZ a couple of days after the LPGA played there, I have played Turtle Bay the day after a Champions Tour event, I have played Ko'Olina the day after the LPGA played and I have played TPC San Antonio 3 days after the PGA Tour played.

Not bragging, just offering up my credentials for making this statement:

I am not impressed with length off the tee by any pro, 50 yards of additional roll lets me hit it over 300 too, the fairways are extremely firm for all tours. I AM impressed with all pros on all tours and their short games, the rock hard greens take some skill to putt and get up and down, but putts that STAY ON LINE because of the smooth surfaces make putting easier IMO. I think course conditions that the pro tours get week in and week out would allow us hacks to shoot a couple strokes lower each round after we adjusted to the greens.
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Re: Firm and Fast; do you agree? 7 years 2 months ago #57913

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Interesting article, kinda made me feel a Lil better about my driver
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Re: Firm and Fast; do you agree? 7 years 2 months ago #57916

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tmvds AKA Mr. Negativity wrote:
agreed with the posts here.

I have played Superstition Mountain in AZ a couple of days after the LPGA played there, I have played Turtle Bay the day after a Champions Tour event, I have played Ko'Olina the day after the LPGA played and I have played TPC San Antonio 3 days after the PGA Tour played.

Not bragging, just offering up my credentials for making this statement:

I am not impressed with length off the tee by any pro, 50 yards of additional roll lets me hit it over 300 too, the fairways are extremely firm for all tours. I AM impressed with all pros on all tours and their short games, the rock hard greens take some skill to putt and get up and down, but putts that STAY ON LINE because of the smooth surfaces make putting easier IMO. I think course conditions that the pro tours get week in and week out would allow us hacks to shoot a couple strokes lower each round after we adjusted to the greens.

That's quite the resume of after tourney rounds! I'd love to have those checked off on my list, too. Yeah, the ball goes far off the tee and as long as your in the fairway, it cruises. On my course, I was swinging a different club into the greens than typical by 1 or 2 club less. It's pretty awesome.
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I have played Redstone in Houston 2 times. Both events held by Buick and the Houston Auto Dealer Association for volunteers. 2003 was on the members course that the Freddy won on at about 7600yrds(we played at 6975 or so) and 2008 on the Tournament Course 7500/6900 yrds. The Members Course was fast, we hadn't had much rain and it was new, and I could carry the ball about 250 and get 40yrds roll easy. I could not believe that I could reach some of the holes in 2. On some of my regular courses I would never get to use and iron on an approach shot on a 460yrd hole. 2008 we had some rain and the fairways at the Tournament course were not as firm. Greens were spectacular both days.
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Re: Firm and Fast; do you agree? 7 years 2 months ago #57956

Well I'd definitely like to try it just to see a course in tournament condition... I'd likely miss the fairway anyway so wouldn't benefit too much from the extra roll! And then be penalized even more for the long rough!

oh well... just to try once!
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Re: Firm and Fast; do you agree? 7 years 2 months ago #57957

Having played a couple of Hooter Tour events in addition to playing on some tour courses immediately following a tournament I think the rough, in particular the rough around the greens, makes scoring much more difficult in tour level tournament conditions. Sure you get more distance from the added roll but I think the rough negates any advantage from added length, in particular for us weekend warriors.
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